They have specifically held viewings of unedited footage to the media to manage this exact position. All you will now say to this is that that is too propraganda and that all the journalist who went to the viewings and confirmed what they saw, are too lying. Ie there are basically no facts that will convince you
I remain highly skeptical, but again, I said it I don't hold it beyond Hamas to do any of the above. As with all other atrocities in the past, true or not, the event will get exploited.
To give you an example of how a real atrocity has been abused in the past in favour of the war narrative. .
"Throughout 1938 there was a steady escalation both in the scope and the degree of anti-Jewish persecution. Then on the 7th of November Herschel Grynszpan, 17, a German Jewish refugee living in France went into the German embassy and shot the young diplomat Ernst vom Rath in the stomach severely wounding him. This was in retaliation for the deportation of Grynszpan’s family to Poland a couple of weeks before. Grynszpan had asked to see the ambassador and vom Rath had had the misfortune of being sent to find out what Grynszpan had wanted."
It's important to make this clear, that everything that has been told about the Hamas attack might be true, and it might even be worsts than we are told, but the event will be exploited for political purposes. Long before the real truth catches on, it will be exploited.
Why would this footage need to be verified for it to be believed? Only if people are coming at this from the perspective that the Israeli army is creating this footage ? Do you think they spent a few days with actors and fake blood recreating this footage? You have live footage of civilians being massacred and the position in, “it’s a bit early to take a moral position here as the footage isn’t verified”. Joke. To promote publicly that this footage may be fake is a disgrace to those murdered and help captive here. I know personally a family who was shot while their kids were hid in the cupboard. You want me to introduce you to them when they grow up so you can verify if their parents are really dead ?
So poor. The footage of the decapitations has been shown in briefing directly to the press last Monday and to the Israeli Knesset this week. The propaganda is indeed alive and well except you are the one creating and spreading it.
I remain unconvinced about what was presented and that it's not at least exaggerated. When the journalist asked for a source the IDF claimed that they didn't have one. But that time the Knesset and US President already heard of it, and acted. That's the purpose of atrocity propaganda, to get the public and decision makers so angry and scared that they would go on the war footing.
The point that I make about propaganda is that it isn't necessarily lying, it might all be true. I certainly don't hold it beyond Hamas to do anything of the above and even worst. They used children for suicide bombing in the past for example and the goldstone inquiry years ago found that they committed major war crimes.
What's important to notice about propaganda is not necessarily the validity of the claim, but that the event always gets exploited and repeated to justify the war narrative.
Yes. Lies and propaganda. I know people who were attacked and killed on the day. You sit from a million miles away projecting your bias into an echo chamber. Cowards and liars.
They have specifically held viewings of unedited footage to the media to manage this exact position. All you will now say to this is that that is too propraganda and that all the journalist who went to the viewings and confirmed what they saw, are too lying. Ie there are basically no facts that will convince you
"Not all of the material could be independently verified by the news media. This is some of what we were shown"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-video-of-hamas-terror-attacks-war-in-gaza/
I remain highly skeptical, but again, I said it I don't hold it beyond Hamas to do any of the above. As with all other atrocities in the past, true or not, the event will get exploited.
I made that point in the interview as well.
To give you an example of how a real atrocity has been abused in the past in favour of the war narrative. .
"Throughout 1938 there was a steady escalation both in the scope and the degree of anti-Jewish persecution. Then on the 7th of November Herschel Grynszpan, 17, a German Jewish refugee living in France went into the German embassy and shot the young diplomat Ernst vom Rath in the stomach severely wounding him. This was in retaliation for the deportation of Grynszpan’s family to Poland a couple of weeks before. Grynszpan had asked to see the ambassador and vom Rath had had the misfortune of being sent to find out what Grynszpan had wanted."
https://www.politicsweb.co.za/opinion/malema-goebbels-and-the-art-of-racial-propaganda
It's important to make this clear, that everything that has been told about the Hamas attack might be true, and it might even be worsts than we are told, but the event will be exploited for political purposes. Long before the real truth catches on, it will be exploited.
Why would this footage need to be verified for it to be believed? Only if people are coming at this from the perspective that the Israeli army is creating this footage ? Do you think they spent a few days with actors and fake blood recreating this footage? You have live footage of civilians being massacred and the position in, “it’s a bit early to take a moral position here as the footage isn’t verified”. Joke. To promote publicly that this footage may be fake is a disgrace to those murdered and help captive here. I know personally a family who was shot while their kids were hid in the cupboard. You want me to introduce you to them when they grow up so you can verify if their parents are really dead ?
Great interview Hügo
We talked about a year or so ago on Jerm's Telegram channel...
Have you done that 9/11 homework you were given? Read this book yet?
Where did the towers go? https://www.wheredidthetowersgo.com/
Then have you looked into L.E.N.R yet?
So poor. The footage of the decapitations has been shown in briefing directly to the press last Monday and to the Israeli Knesset this week. The propaganda is indeed alive and well except you are the one creating and spreading it.
I remain unconvinced about what was presented and that it's not at least exaggerated. When the journalist asked for a source the IDF claimed that they didn't have one. But that time the Knesset and US President already heard of it, and acted. That's the purpose of atrocity propaganda, to get the public and decision makers so angry and scared that they would go on the war footing.
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/beheaded-israeli-babies-settler-wipe-out-palestinian/
The same was true of the accusations of rape.
https://forward.com/news/564318/sexual-assault-rape-proof-hamas-idf-israel-gaza/
The point that I make about propaganda is that it isn't necessarily lying, it might all be true. I certainly don't hold it beyond Hamas to do anything of the above and even worst. They used children for suicide bombing in the past for example and the goldstone inquiry years ago found that they committed major war crimes.
What's important to notice about propaganda is not necessarily the validity of the claim, but that the event always gets exploited and repeated to justify the war narrative.
Have you read this piece: https://jermwarfare.com/conversations/hugo-kruger-on-the-middle-east-propaganda-and-media
Yes. Lies and propaganda. I know people who were attacked and killed on the day. You sit from a million miles away projecting your bias into an echo chamber. Cowards and liars.
Would love your thoughts on this: https://odysee.com/@wonderingwhatif:b/Israel-Gaza-Mix:9